About the show
The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!
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Episodes
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Episode 205: Unleashing Energy Part 2: The Hidden Force in Leadership and Culture
August 25th, 2025 | 21 mins
business, csuite, energy revisited, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce pick up where they left off in Episode 204, exploring the infectious power of energy.
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Episode 204: The Power We Don’t See (But Feel Everywhere)
August 18th, 2025 | 18 mins 37 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, omega institute, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce tap into the invisible but undeniable power of energy.
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Episode 203: Exploring Joyce’s Career Path: Twists, Turns, and Boyfriends
August 11th, 2025 | 32 mins 16 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, joyce interview, leadership, od, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce shine the spotlight on Joyce and her winding journey to becoming an OD expert.
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Episode 202: Assessment Grit: Knowing Before Doing
August 4th, 2025 | 26 mins 41 secs
assessments, business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dig into the underrated superpower of knowing before doing. Before charging ahead, what if we paused to truly assess what’s needed?
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Episode 201: The Power of “I Want…”
July 28th, 2025 | 22 mins 31 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, i want, leadership, od, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore a simple yet powerful technique called “I want…”—a way to name our desires and aspirations out loud.
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Episode 200: Episode 200 – Time to Reflect, Celebrate, and Appreciate
July 21st, 2025 | 15 mins 43 secs
#200, business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
Today marks a major milestone—our 200th episode! Come join the celebration!
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Episode 199: Thriving in Chaos: It's Happening to All of Us
July 9th, 2025 | 18 mins 46 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development, thriving in chaos
In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce dive into what it takes for organizations to stay grounded when chaos and uncertainty are no longer the exception—they’re the backdrop.
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Episode 198: Michelle Griffin Ph.D.: Building a Business and a Life That Works
July 2nd, 2025 | 48 mins
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, michelle griffin, od, organizational development
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Michelle Griffin, CEO and founder of Griffin Resources—an entrepreneur who truly has the "right stuff."
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Episode 197: 🎙 Resiliency Face-Off, Part 2: Spoiler—Ours Wins
June 24th, 2025 | 32 mins 46 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, mit sloan resiliency, od, organizational development
In this second part of our resiliency deep dive, Bob ‘n Joyce take a close look at MIT Sloan’s latest take on what makes a culture truly resilient.
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Episode 196: The Resilience Face-Off: Street Smarts Meets Sloan MIT Smarts
June 9th, 2025 | 19 mins 52 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development resiliency street smarts
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dive into how to create and sustain organizational resiliency—a must-have competency in today’s fast-changing business world.
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Episode 195: Flugidity Revisited: Why We’re Still Talking About Structure vs. Flexibility Back by popular demand… or maybe just our own curiosity.
June 2nd, 2025 | 11 mins 34 secs
business, csuite, executive, flugidity, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
After we hit “stop” on our last episode, Tight Ship or Jazz Band?, we realized the conversation wasn’t over. The tension between discipline and flexibility kept tugging at us — and stirred up a few stories (and laughs) we hadn’t yet shared.
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Episode 194: Tight Ship or Jazz Band? Finding Balance in Today’s Workplace
May 22nd, 2025 | 25 mins 15 secs
business, csuite, executive, flugidity, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
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Episode 193: Beyond Ping Pong Tables: How to Build a Culture of Care
May 9th, 2025 | 18 mins 5 secs
beyond ping pong, business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore what it really takes to create a workplace where people thrive — and it’s a lot more than free snacks and ping pong tables.
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Episode 192: The Chosen Few: A Talent Strategy That’s Holding You Back
May 2nd, 2025 | 22 mins 22 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development, spoiled brats
In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the common practice of relying on the same group of people—time and again—to get important work done. Joyce calls them the “spoiled brats,” while Bob refers to them as the “usual suspects” or “chosen ones.”
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Episode 191: Creating Islands of Sanity in the Chaos – Part 2
April 24th, 2025 | 29 mins 53 secs
business, csuite, executive, hr, human resources, islands of sanity part 2, leadership, od, organizational development
In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce pick up where they left off in episode 185, diving deeper into how leaders can navigate turbulent and unsettling times with intention and heart.
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Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human
April 14th, 2025 | 40 mins 46 secs
business, csuite, culture transformation., ernesto gómez arzapalo, executive, hr, human resources, leadership, od, organizational development, regrowth book
In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo.