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  <description>In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the surprising benefits of resistance to change. Too often, resistance is seen as a problem to squash — but that only fuels it further. Instead, what if resistance is a signal worth listening to?
When we meet resistance with curiosity and inquiry, it becomes a powerful ally for successful change. Resistance is natural. It’s the system’s way of saying, “Not so fast.”
This conversation was sparked by The Seven C’s of Consulting by Mick Cope — a book we’re reading (and loving). 
Here are a few flavors of resistance we dig into:
• Flavor of the day change – “Here we go again…”
• Imposed change – Done to us vs. done with us
• Dislike of surprises – “You’re doing what?”
• Unpopular issues – The hard stuff nobody wants to face
• Fear of the unknown – The imperfect and uncertain
• Feeling inadequate – Not up to the challenge
• Lack of respect – Doubting the messenger
So don’t resist — come on in, grab a snack, and join us for the conversation. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the surprising benefits of resistance to change. Too often, resistance is seen as a problem to squash — but that only fuels it further. Instead, what if resistance is a signal worth listening to?</p>

<p>When we meet resistance with curiosity and inquiry, it becomes a powerful ally for successful change. Resistance is natural. It’s the system’s way of saying, “Not so fast.”<br>
This conversation was sparked by The Seven C’s of Consulting by Mick Cope — a book we’re reading (and loving). </p>

<p>Here are a few flavors of resistance we dig into:<br>
• Flavor of the day change – “Here we go again…”<br>
• Imposed change – Done to us vs. done with us<br>
• Dislike of surprises – “You’re doing what?”<br>
• Unpopular issues – The hard stuff nobody wants to face<br>
• Fear of the unknown – The imperfect and uncertain<br>
• Feeling inadequate – Not up to the challenge<br>
• Lack of respect – Doubting the messenger</p>

<p>So don’t resist — come on in, grab a snack, and join us for the conversation.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the surprising benefits of resistance to change. Too often, resistance is seen as a problem to squash — but that only fuels it further. Instead, what if resistance is a signal worth listening to?</p>

<p>When we meet resistance with curiosity and inquiry, it becomes a powerful ally for successful change. Resistance is natural. It’s the system’s way of saying, “Not so fast.”<br>
This conversation was sparked by The Seven C’s of Consulting by Mick Cope — a book we’re reading (and loving). </p>

<p>Here are a few flavors of resistance we dig into:<br>
• Flavor of the day change – “Here we go again…”<br>
• Imposed change – Done to us vs. done with us<br>
• Dislike of surprises – “You’re doing what?”<br>
• Unpopular issues – The hard stuff nobody wants to face<br>
• Fear of the unknown – The imperfect and uncertain<br>
• Feeling inadequate – Not up to the challenge<br>
• Lack of respect – Doubting the messenger</p>

<p>So don’t resist — come on in, grab a snack, and join us for the conversation.</p>]]>
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