web01.fireside.fm Tue, 07 Apr 2026 03:58:04 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD - Episodes Tagged with “Margaret Wheatley Who Do We Choose To Be” https://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/tags/margaret%20wheatley%20who%20do%20we%20choose%20to%20be Wed, 18 Mar 2026 13:00:00 -0400 The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome! en-us episodic A podcast about success, failure, and hacks in HR/OD. Our goal is to help HR and OD practitioners, working in large organizations, be bolder and generate new ideas for higher impact. Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome! no human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford bobnjoycepodcast@gmail.com Episode 228: Leadership in Uncertain Times — Don’t Wait for Optimism, Generate It http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/228 5940fe11-9e83-4829-99fa-e1030c2376f5 Wed, 18 Mar 2026 13:00:00 -0400 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 228 Leadership in Uncertain Times — Don’t Wait for Optimism, Generate It full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, we continue our conversation about the role of Organization Development in unsettled times. Last time we explored what it means to act hopeful when it’s hard to feel hopeful. This time we go a step further: How do you show up when things feel uncertain—and still make a positive difference? 26:23 no In this episode, we continue our conversation about the role of Organization Development in unsettled times. Last time we explored what it means to act hopeful when it’s hard to feel hopeful. This time we go a step further: How do you show up when things feel uncertain—and still make a positive difference? We draw inspiration from Margaret Wheatley’s book Who Do We Choose To Be?, which offers a powerful historical perspective on how societies and systems evolve—and what that might mean for the world we’re navigating today. If we understand these patterns, leaders and OD practitioners can better assess what is actually happening around them—and more importantly, decide how they want to respond. In our conversation we explore the practical ways leaders can show up in difficult moments: • Strengthening connection when people feel fragmented • Choosing love over fear in how we lead • Maintaining a willingness to contribute, even when outcomes are uncertain • And yes—keeping a sense of humor along the way Because in challenging times, leadership isn’t about waiting for optimism. It’s about generating it. human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Margaret Wheatley, unsettled times, love over fear, positivity, creating optimism, chaos, sense of humor In this episode, we continue our conversation about the role of Organization Development in unsettled times. Last time we explored what it means to act hopeful when it’s hard to feel hopeful. This time we go a step further: How do you show up when things feel uncertain—and still make a positive difference?

We draw inspiration from Margaret Wheatley’s book Who Do We Choose To Be?, which offers a powerful historical perspective on how societies and systems evolve—and what that might mean for the world we’re navigating today.

If we understand these patterns, leaders and OD practitioners can better assess what is actually happening around them—and more importantly, decide how they want to respond.
In our conversation we explore the practical ways leaders can show up in difficult moments:
• Strengthening connection when people feel fragmented
• Choosing love over fear in how we lead
• Maintaining a willingness to contribute, even when outcomes are uncertain
• And yes—keeping a sense of humor along the way

Because in challenging times, leadership isn’t about waiting for optimism.
It’s about generating it.

]]> In this episode, we continue our conversation about the role of Organization Development in unsettled times. Last time we explored what it means to act hopeful when it’s hard to feel hopeful. This time we go a step further: How do you show up when things feel uncertain—and still make a positive difference?

We draw inspiration from Margaret Wheatley’s book Who Do We Choose To Be?, which offers a powerful historical perspective on how societies and systems evolve—and what that might mean for the world we’re navigating today.

If we understand these patterns, leaders and OD practitioners can better assess what is actually happening around them—and more importantly, decide how they want to respond.
In our conversation we explore the practical ways leaders can show up in difficult moments:
• Strengthening connection when people feel fragmented
• Choosing love over fear in how we lead
• Maintaining a willingness to contribute, even when outcomes are uncertain
• And yes—keeping a sense of humor along the way

Because in challenging times, leadership isn’t about waiting for optimism.
It’s about generating it.

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