web02.fireside.fm Sun, 26 Apr 2026 13:15:50 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD - Episodes Tagged with “Hannaford” https://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/tags/hannaford Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:15:00 -0500 The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome! en-us episodic A podcast about success, failure, and hacks in HR/OD. Our goal is to help HR and OD practitioners, working in large organizations, be bolder and generate new ideas for higher impact. Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome! no human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford bobnjoycepodcast@gmail.com Episode 144: The Discomfort of Learning Something New http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/144 a2845cea-d07d-47f8-8fe0-55a53aa53401 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:15:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 144 The Discomfort of Learning Something New full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob and Joyce take on the discomfort, sometimes embarrassment, of learning something new. 24:16 no In this episode, Bob and Joyce take on the discomfort, sometimes embarrassment, of learning something new. There is a period where we often go backwards, stumble and fall when learning something new. The expectation of most people is that once the learning process begins, improvement quickly follows. When it doesn't go this way, disappointment and resignation often follows. As coaches, OD and HR practitioners, the question is, what do we do to encourage experimentation and failure as a normal part of the learning process? How do we level set this expectation with bosses who are impatient to see progress? We offer principles of learning that help answer these questions. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, learning, failing forward, FFT's, new positions, promotions In this episode, Bob and Joyce take on the discomfort, sometimes embarrassment, of learning something new. There is a period where we often go backwards, stumble and fall when learning something new. The expectation of most people is that once the learning process begins, improvement quickly follows. When it doesn't go this way, disappointment and resignation often follows.

As coaches, OD and HR practitioners, the question is, what do we do to encourage experimentation and failure as a normal part of the learning process? How do we level set this expectation with bosses who are impatient to see progress? We offer principles of learning that help answer these questions.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob and Joyce take on the discomfort, sometimes embarrassment, of learning something new. There is a period where we often go backwards, stumble and fall when learning something new. The expectation of most people is that once the learning process begins, improvement quickly follows. When it doesn't go this way, disappointment and resignation often follows.

As coaches, OD and HR practitioners, the question is, what do we do to encourage experimentation and failure as a normal part of the learning process? How do we level set this expectation with bosses who are impatient to see progress? We offer principles of learning that help answer these questions.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 143: The Courage of Being a Third-Party Facilitator http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/143 fd7a6c84-96bf-4643-a4a3-1df96cbca807 Mon, 12 Feb 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 143 The Courage of Being a Third-Party Facilitator full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce speak to the importance and challenge of third-party facilitation. 21:50 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce speak to the importance and challenge of third-party facilitation. As HR/OD practitioners, we are often called upon to facilitate open and productive conversations between two parties. This is an important and often underappreciated role that we play. In this episode, you will get: What it looks like when done well The perils of not getting it right Skills necessary to be good at it Why this is one of the most courageous roles HR/OD plays Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome. human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, Third Party Facilitation, mediation, courageous conversations, leadership competency In this episode, Bob’nJoyce speak to the importance and challenge of third-party facilitation. As HR/OD practitioners, we are often called upon to facilitate open and productive conversations between two parties. This is an important and often underappreciated role that we play.

In this episode, you will get:

  • What it looks like when done well
  • The perils of not getting it right
  • Skills necessary to be good at it
  • Why this is one of the most courageous roles HR/OD plays

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome.

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce speak to the importance and challenge of third-party facilitation. As HR/OD practitioners, we are often called upon to facilitate open and productive conversations between two parties. This is an important and often underappreciated role that we play.

In this episode, you will get:

  • What it looks like when done well
  • The perils of not getting it right
  • Skills necessary to be good at it
  • Why this is one of the most courageous roles HR/OD plays

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome.

]]> Episode 142: Addressing Cynicism in the Workplace http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/142 ffa8bbfc-08b0-4dda-92fc-e0c69bbac99b Mon, 05 Feb 2024 10:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 142 Addressing Cynicism in the Workplace full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on creating a healthy work culture in a world where cynicism about institutions has become the norm 25:41 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on creating a healthy work culture in a world where cynicism about institutions has become the norm. Many workers today are tired, bored, and disillusioned. Given this current reality, what can leaders and HR/OD practitioners to turn the ship around? Bob’nJoyce would offer those cosmetic solutions like flexible hours, ping pong tables, and pizza parties are nice but are not the answer. They discuss the roots of cynicism and then offer ideas and actions to consider. Here are some ideas they offer: Name what is happening correctly to understand the nuances behind the cynicism. Ask, "Is the current cynicism episodic (one time event/impact) or is chronic and pervasive?" The answer to this question will inform what to and what not to do. Ask employees the question, ‘What would create positive energy for your daily work.” You can also ask what is creating negative energy in your daily work. Resist the urge to act to “fix it” in a parental way. Involve employees to co-create solutions. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, cynicism, boredom, quiet quitting, health work culture, toxic workplace In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on creating a healthy work culture in a world where cynicism about institutions has become the norm. Many workers today are tired, bored, and disillusioned. Given this current reality, what can leaders and HR/OD practitioners to turn the ship around?

Bob’nJoyce would offer those cosmetic solutions like flexible hours, ping pong tables, and pizza parties are nice but are not the answer. They discuss the roots of cynicism and then offer ideas and actions to consider. Here are some ideas they offer:

  • Name what is happening correctly to understand the nuances behind the cynicism.
  • Ask, "Is the current cynicism episodic (one time event/impact) or is chronic and pervasive?" The answer to this question will inform what to and what not to do.
  • Ask employees the question, ‘What would create positive energy for your daily work.” You can also ask what is creating negative energy in your daily work.
  • Resist the urge to act to “fix it” in a parental way. Involve employees to co-create solutions.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on creating a healthy work culture in a world where cynicism about institutions has become the norm. Many workers today are tired, bored, and disillusioned. Given this current reality, what can leaders and HR/OD practitioners to turn the ship around?

Bob’nJoyce would offer those cosmetic solutions like flexible hours, ping pong tables, and pizza parties are nice but are not the answer. They discuss the roots of cynicism and then offer ideas and actions to consider. Here are some ideas they offer:

  • Name what is happening correctly to understand the nuances behind the cynicism.
  • Ask, "Is the current cynicism episodic (one time event/impact) or is chronic and pervasive?" The answer to this question will inform what to and what not to do.
  • Ask employees the question, ‘What would create positive energy for your daily work.” You can also ask what is creating negative energy in your daily work.
  • Resist the urge to act to “fix it” in a parental way. Involve employees to co-create solutions.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 140: Beyond Crucial Conversations–Advice on Leveraging Differences in the Room http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/140 98ae9330-8328-4909-8145-0526f7dcb957 Sun, 21 Jan 2024 23:15:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 140 Beyond Crucial Conversations–Advice on Leveraging Differences in the Room full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share ideas on facilitating powerful conversations when differences exist in the room. 11:16 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share ideas on facilitating powerful conversations when differences exist in the room (BTW, differences always exist). As OD practitioners, we are all familiar with the setting of norms for teams to engage in respectful, bold dialogue. Today, Joyce reaches into her treasure trove of practical guidelines to facilitate real and productive conversations. While these ideas can be used in the context of DEI conversations, they apply universally to any topic or situation. These guidelines are effective at helping: • A new team hit the ground running. • A cross functional group working on a thorny problem. • A group that comes together from diverse cultures and/or countries. • A team where there are strong conflicting beliefs or opinions. So come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD Hannaford, DEI, Integrating voices, managing conflict, crucial conversations, real talk, connecting, cultural differences, Setting Norms In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share ideas on facilitating powerful conversations when differences exist in the room (BTW, differences always exist).

As OD practitioners, we are all familiar with the setting of norms for teams to engage in respectful, bold dialogue. Today, Joyce reaches into her treasure trove of practical guidelines to facilitate real and productive conversations. While these ideas can be used in the context of DEI conversations, they apply universally to any topic or situation.

These guidelines are effective at helping:
• A new team hit the ground running.
• A cross functional group working on a thorny problem.
• A group that comes together from diverse cultures and/or countries.
• A team where there are strong conflicting beliefs or opinions.

So come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share ideas on facilitating powerful conversations when differences exist in the room (BTW, differences always exist).

As OD practitioners, we are all familiar with the setting of norms for teams to engage in respectful, bold dialogue. Today, Joyce reaches into her treasure trove of practical guidelines to facilitate real and productive conversations. While these ideas can be used in the context of DEI conversations, they apply universally to any topic or situation.

These guidelines are effective at helping:
• A new team hit the ground running.
• A cross functional group working on a thorny problem.
• A group that comes together from diverse cultures and/or countries.
• A team where there are strong conflicting beliefs or opinions.

So come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 139: What Workers Want From Their Leader http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/139 99125011-d085-4d0c-88e8-a8c1f33a8a09 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 139 What Workers Want From Their Leader full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce, explore leadership expectations through the lenses of their people. 25:12 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce, explore leadership expectations through the lenses of their people. Joyce shares from a paper she recently wrote on what people want and expect from their boss. These are universal and timeless truths that serves as a litmus test for leadership effectiveness. In the spirit of the new year and renewal, we challenge you to rate yourself, and commit to one area to improve upon. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, leadership exceptions, positive culture, performance review, leadership influence, leadership traits, vulnerability, authenticity, truth telling, straight talk In this episode, Bob’nJoyce, explore leadership expectations through the lenses of their people. Joyce shares from a paper she recently wrote on what people want and expect from their boss. These are universal and timeless truths that serves as a litmus test for leadership effectiveness.

In the spirit of the new year and renewal, we challenge you to rate yourself, and commit to one area to improve upon.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce, explore leadership expectations through the lenses of their people. Joyce shares from a paper she recently wrote on what people want and expect from their boss. These are universal and timeless truths that serves as a litmus test for leadership effectiveness.

In the spirit of the new year and renewal, we challenge you to rate yourself, and commit to one area to improve upon.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 138: What Are You Willing to be Measured on in 2024? http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/138 96df47f9-544d-4bcb-895d-52112e5ff151 Wed, 03 Jan 2024 13:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 138 What Are You Willing to be Measured on in 2024? full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In the spirit of the new year, Bob’nJoyce share a process that creates rigorous accountability for top leaders. 18:12 no In the spirit of the new year, Bob’nJoyce share a process that creates rigorous accountability for top leaders. This is based on a process that Joyce created with a senior team to set intentions for organizational and personal wellness and success. It takes courage for a senior team to take a stand for what they are willing to be measured by and measure their peers by. Are you ready to take this challenge in 2024? It’s a new year and a good time to reevaluate the qualities expected of you and your team. In this podcast, you will get simple instructions on how to make this happen. Happy New Year! Get out there and make some ‘good trouble’ in 2024. Com on in. Grab a healthy snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford accountability, executive performance measurements, high performing teams, crucial conversations, timeless qualities of great leaders In the spirit of the new year, Bob’nJoyce share a process that creates rigorous accountability for top leaders. This is based on a process that Joyce created with a senior team to set intentions for organizational and personal wellness and success. It takes courage for a senior team to take a stand for what they are willing to be measured by and measure their peers by. Are you ready to take this challenge in 2024?

It’s a new year and a good time to reevaluate the qualities expected of you and your team. In this podcast, you will get simple instructions on how to make this happen.

Happy New Year! Get out there and make some ‘good trouble’ in 2024.

Com on in. Grab a healthy snack. Welcome!

]]> In the spirit of the new year, Bob’nJoyce share a process that creates rigorous accountability for top leaders. This is based on a process that Joyce created with a senior team to set intentions for organizational and personal wellness and success. It takes courage for a senior team to take a stand for what they are willing to be measured by and measure their peers by. Are you ready to take this challenge in 2024?

It’s a new year and a good time to reevaluate the qualities expected of you and your team. In this podcast, you will get simple instructions on how to make this happen.

Happy New Year! Get out there and make some ‘good trouble’ in 2024.

Com on in. Grab a healthy snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 137: Let 'er Rip! Let’s Celebrate Every Holiday Tradition http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/137 bde3ae84-4f4c-4439-9e45-176fd002ba76 Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 137 Let 'er Rip! Let’s Celebrate Every Holiday Tradition full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce challenge the tendency to walk on eggshells when celebrating holiday traditions in the workplace. 19:14 yes In this episode, Bob’nJoyce challenge the tendency to walk on eggshells when celebrating holiday traditions in the workplace. Too often, people and organization tamp down celebrating a holiday tradition to not offend. In the name of fairness, companies put restrictions on holiday celebrations that stifles inclusiveness and learning. We encourage companies to let er rip and allow employees to openly celebrate their traditions. All of that being said, we struggled with the discomfort of this topic and indeed found ourselves walking on eggshells. Come join us as we lean into our discomfort. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, Being PC, fairness, Being inclusive, Holiday traditions, Holiday celebration In this episode, Bob’nJoyce challenge the tendency to walk on eggshells when celebrating holiday traditions in the workplace. Too often, people and organization tamp down celebrating a holiday tradition to not offend. In the name of fairness, companies put restrictions on holiday celebrations that stifles inclusiveness and learning. We encourage companies to let er rip and allow employees to openly celebrate their traditions.

All of that being said, we struggled with the discomfort of this topic and indeed found ourselves walking on eggshells. Come join us as we lean into our discomfort.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce challenge the tendency to walk on eggshells when celebrating holiday traditions in the workplace. Too often, people and organization tamp down celebrating a holiday tradition to not offend. In the name of fairness, companies put restrictions on holiday celebrations that stifles inclusiveness and learning. We encourage companies to let er rip and allow employees to openly celebrate their traditions.

All of that being said, we struggled with the discomfort of this topic and indeed found ourselves walking on eggshells. Come join us as we lean into our discomfort.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 136: What’s Your Cranberry Ice? http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/136 14766ab2-87f4-4fda-879f-d7848dc4bc8f Mon, 11 Dec 2023 14:30:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 136 What’s Your Cranberry Ice? full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce make the case for rituals in a world in flux and disarray. 19:11 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce make the case for rituals in a world in flux and disarray. Rituals helps us find meaning, comfort, and continuity whether it be a holiday tradition or troubled times. Rituals ground us (the cranberry ice) helping to pave the way forward. The tricky part rituals is to: Let go of what’s not working or no longer relevant, Keep what’s valued (the cranberry ice), Make new ritual, and Consciously choose which rituals to keep, discard, or create. Speaking of rituals - Come on in. Grab your cranberry ice. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, troubled times, getting through, rituals, tradition, soothing interventions, disruptors In this episode, Bob’nJoyce make the case for rituals in a world in flux and disarray. Rituals helps us find meaning, comfort, and continuity whether it be a holiday tradition or troubled times. Rituals ground us (the cranberry ice) helping to pave the way forward.

The tricky part rituals is to:
Let go of what’s not working or no longer relevant,
Keep what’s valued (the cranberry ice),
Make new ritual, and
Consciously choose which rituals to keep, discard, or create.

Speaking of rituals - Come on in. Grab your cranberry ice. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce make the case for rituals in a world in flux and disarray. Rituals helps us find meaning, comfort, and continuity whether it be a holiday tradition or troubled times. Rituals ground us (the cranberry ice) helping to pave the way forward.

The tricky part rituals is to:
Let go of what’s not working or no longer relevant,
Keep what’s valued (the cranberry ice),
Make new ritual, and
Consciously choose which rituals to keep, discard, or create.

Speaking of rituals - Come on in. Grab your cranberry ice. Welcome!

]]> Episode 135: The Power of Here and Now Revisited http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/135 cc03bdfb-49b6-4e7c-ad94-10bef84ca192 Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:15:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 135 The Power of Here and Now Revisited full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, Bob’nJoyce revisit last week’s conversation on the power and perils of being fully present. 9:30 no In this episode, Bob’nJoyce revisit last week’s conversation on the power and perils of being fully present. Here we unpack some afterthoughts that we felt is important to share. It is a quick conversation so be in the here and now and on the edge of your seat. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome! human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, suite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford, being fully present, here and now, train your brain, intimacy, powerful conversations, In this episode, Bob’nJoyce revisit last week’s conversation on the power and perils of being fully present. Here we unpack some afterthoughts that we felt is important to share. It is a quick conversation so be in the here and now and on the edge of your seat.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> In this episode, Bob’nJoyce revisit last week’s conversation on the power and perils of being fully present. Here we unpack some afterthoughts that we felt is important to share. It is a quick conversation so be in the here and now and on the edge of your seat.

Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

]]> Episode 2: Remembering Katherine Maxim Greenleaf – An HR/OD Leader Who Inspired http://bobnjoyce.fireside.fm/2 781d746d-d197-42ca-a910-1c27b942ef31 Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0500 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford 2 Remembering Katherine Maxim Greenleaf – An HR/OD Leader Who Inspired full Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford In this episode, we remember our friend and former boss, Kathy Greenleaf. It was not our intention to have our first episode be a tribute to Kathy but it is because we promised we’d keep it real. Kathy died unexpectedly on December 3rd and her passing weighed heavily on us as we met to record this podcast. 21:35 no In this episode, we revisited Kathy’s time at Hannaford as the head of HR and the powerful force she was that transformed HR and the company. If you worked with Kathy, our hope is that this podcast rekindles your own fond memories. If you didn’t know Kathy, we hope you enjoy the lessons of the early transition of HR becoming a strategic partner at the C-suite table. human resources, organizational development, business, leadership, csuite, executive, HR, OD, Hannaford In this episode, we revisited Kathy’s time at Hannaford as the head of HR and the powerful force she was that transformed HR and the company. If you worked with Kathy, our hope is that this podcast rekindles your own fond memories. If you didn’t know Kathy, we hope you enjoy the lessons of the early transition of HR becoming a strategic partner at the C-suite table.

]]> In this episode, we revisited Kathy’s time at Hannaford as the head of HR and the powerful force she was that transformed HR and the company. If you worked with Kathy, our hope is that this podcast rekindles your own fond memories. If you didn’t know Kathy, we hope you enjoy the lessons of the early transition of HR becoming a strategic partner at the C-suite table.

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