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  <title>Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo.</itunes:subtitle>
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Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from decades in the trenches—leading people-first cultural overhauls for companies with tens of thousands of employees, while also launching his own ventures and guest lecturing at a top-tier business school. We dig into the ideas behind his new book, Regrowth – How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People's Potential, and trust us: this isn’t your typical corporate jargon. Ernesto drops practical, sometimes surprising insights that can help any organization—or individual—get unstuck and thrive.
This convo is full of stories, laughter, and that rare mix of head and heart. You’ll hear how Ernesto helped shift cultures inside massive companies, why unlocking human potential isn’t just HR’s job, and how his journey from Mexico to MIT continues to shape his work and life.
So grab a coffee. Maybe a snack. And come hang out with us—you’ll leave this one with a full brain and a full heart.
🎧 Listen in and learn:
• Why most culture change efforts fall flat—and how to do it differently
• What it really means to lead through ambiguity
• How to move from stuck to thriving (yes, it’s possible)
• Why Ernesto believes in “regrowth,” not just “growth”
✨ Connect with Ernesto:
•Website : aspenmindset1.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-gómez-arzapalo-8783ab43/ 
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Bob &#39;n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo. He’s worn a lot of hats—OD consultant, c-suite exec, academic, serial entrepreneur—and somehow manages to still be one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet.</p>

<p>Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from decades in the trenches—leading people-first cultural overhauls for companies with tens of thousands of employees, while also launching his own ventures and guest lecturing at a top-tier business school. We dig into the ideas behind his new book, Regrowth – How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People&#39;s Potential, and trust us: this isn’t your typical corporate jargon. Ernesto drops practical, sometimes surprising insights that can help any organization—or individual—get unstuck and thrive.</p>

<p>This convo is full of stories, laughter, and that rare mix of head and heart. You’ll hear how Ernesto helped shift cultures inside massive companies, why unlocking human potential isn’t just HR’s job, and how his journey from Mexico to MIT continues to shape his work and life.</p>

<p>So grab a coffee. Maybe a snack. And come hang out with us—you’ll leave this one with a full brain and a full heart.</p>

<p>🎧 Listen in and learn:<br>
• Why most culture change efforts fall flat—and how to do it differently<br>
• What it really means to lead through ambiguity<br>
• How to move from stuck to thriving (yes, it’s possible)<br>
• Why Ernesto believes in “regrowth,” not just “growth”</p>

<p>✨ Connect with Ernesto:</p>

<p>•Website : aspenmindset1.com<br>
LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-g%C3%B3mez-arzapalo-8783ab43/" rel="nofollow">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-gómez-arzapalo-8783ab43/</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Bob &#39;n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo. He’s worn a lot of hats—OD consultant, c-suite exec, academic, serial entrepreneur—and somehow manages to still be one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet.</p>

<p>Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from decades in the trenches—leading people-first cultural overhauls for companies with tens of thousands of employees, while also launching his own ventures and guest lecturing at a top-tier business school. We dig into the ideas behind his new book, Regrowth – How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People&#39;s Potential, and trust us: this isn’t your typical corporate jargon. Ernesto drops practical, sometimes surprising insights that can help any organization—or individual—get unstuck and thrive.</p>

<p>This convo is full of stories, laughter, and that rare mix of head and heart. You’ll hear how Ernesto helped shift cultures inside massive companies, why unlocking human potential isn’t just HR’s job, and how his journey from Mexico to MIT continues to shape his work and life.</p>

<p>So grab a coffee. Maybe a snack. And come hang out with us—you’ll leave this one with a full brain and a full heart.</p>

<p>🎧 Listen in and learn:<br>
• Why most culture change efforts fall flat—and how to do it differently<br>
• What it really means to lead through ambiguity<br>
• How to move from stuck to thriving (yes, it’s possible)<br>
• Why Ernesto believes in “regrowth,” not just “growth”</p>

<p>✨ Connect with Ernesto:</p>

<p>•Website : aspenmindset1.com<br>
LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-g%C3%B3mez-arzapalo-8783ab43/" rel="nofollow">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-gómez-arzapalo-8783ab43/</a></p>]]>
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