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  <itunes:subtitle>This episode continues our Election Day conversation, Democracy Is Hard Work. Following the sweeping Democratic victory, we turn our attention from winning elections to the much harder challenge of governing.</itunes:subtitle>
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&lt;p&gt;So, we imagine that Congress has called us in for a little help. Our assignment: advise legislators on how to move beyond division, obstruction, and political scorekeeping—and begin doing constructive work together.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This isn’t about advancing a particular policy agenda. We’re looking at Congress as a human system and asking what must change in the way people behave, relate, and work together.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our premise is simple: If the behaviors don’t change, the results won’t change. Congress is a system, and that system has just been shaken up. Moments of disruption create a short window when old patterns can be interrupted, new relationships formed, and better ways of working introduced. But that window won’t stay open for long.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We offer Congress a reset grounded in human connection, systems thinking, honest conversation, and a willingness to see political opponents as people rather than enemies. Democracy requires disagreement. It does not require dysfunction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And because we believe in being part of the solution, Bob ’n Joyce are available to facilitate the process. We’ll work with leaders from both parties, bring the room together, and even coach Donald Trump.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our rates are reasonable. The challenge may not be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>So, we imagine that Congress has called us in for a little help. Our assignment: advise legislators on how to move beyond division, obstruction, and political scorekeeping—and begin doing constructive work together.</p>

<p>This isn’t about advancing a particular policy agenda. We’re looking at Congress as a human system and asking what must change in the way people behave, relate, and work together.</p>

<p>Our premise is simple: If the behaviors don’t change, the results won’t change. Congress is a system, and that system has just been shaken up. Moments of disruption create a short window when old patterns can be interrupted, new relationships formed, and better ways of working introduced. But that window won’t stay open for long.</p>

<p>We offer Congress a reset grounded in human connection, systems thinking, honest conversation, and a willingness to see political opponents as people rather than enemies. Democracy requires disagreement. It does not require dysfunction.</p>

<p>And because we believe in being part of the solution, Bob ’n Joyce are available to facilitate the process. We’ll work with leaders from both parties, bring the room together, and even coach Donald Trump.</p>

<p>Our rates are reasonable. The challenge may not be.</p>]]>
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<p>So, we imagine that Congress has called us in for a little help. Our assignment: advise legislators on how to move beyond division, obstruction, and political scorekeeping—and begin doing constructive work together.</p>

<p>This isn’t about advancing a particular policy agenda. We’re looking at Congress as a human system and asking what must change in the way people behave, relate, and work together.</p>

<p>Our premise is simple: If the behaviors don’t change, the results won’t change. Congress is a system, and that system has just been shaken up. Moments of disruption create a short window when old patterns can be interrupted, new relationships formed, and better ways of working introduced. But that window won’t stay open for long.</p>

<p>We offer Congress a reset grounded in human connection, systems thinking, honest conversation, and a willingness to see political opponents as people rather than enemies. Democracy requires disagreement. It does not require dysfunction.</p>

<p>And because we believe in being part of the solution, Bob ’n Joyce are available to facilitate the process. We’ll work with leaders from both parties, bring the room together, and even coach Donald Trump.</p>

<p>Our rates are reasonable. The challenge may not be.</p>]]>
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